Hey guys,
after looking into selfhosting email it seems to me that it’s probably better if I use an existing email hoster like Namecheap or Porkbun.
Now I saw that Porkbun doesn’t offer catchall emails so I can’t use it for my usecase.
Do you guys have any recommendations for a reasonably priced email hoster for a custom domain that offers all basic features like catchall? The purpose is for one domain I use for my personal stuff and one for a small side hustle/ small business.
Thanks so much in advance for your help!
ProtonMail has been my go to, really fantastic service, you get simplelogin as well and can add custom domains up to 10 iirc. And the VPN is top tier too.
I used to self host email and got sick of my emails never getting through. Email is federated in theory, but pretty centralized in practice. Paying for Proton was definitely worth it.
Someone shared this post about ProtonMail the other day and thought I should share here as well.
An interesting read - thanks for sharing.
After reading that post and the linked github issues, with the latest updates and comments from the last 24 hours. Here’s the TL;DR:
- This is only relevant if you want to use an email client with Proton Bridge.
- If you’re just using Proton for encryption and signing (you can use the same PGP outside of proton too) then there is no issue at all.
- If you want an external tool (like a hardware yubikey) to decrypt your messages that someone else has sent to you using the public key that corresponds to the external tool there will be signature validation shenanigans. This is because Proton expects to be the only entity doing any encryption.This is an important issue for those that need to send encrypted emails (and signatures) with specific keys.
- It is not an issue for anyone using Proton email for a secure email service even if they want to use an external email client on desktop (like Thunderbird) with Proton Bridge.
Please correct me if I missed something.
CC: @howlingecko@sh.itjust.works
You got it right, lots of drama, not really anything to worry about unless you’re very fringe and have people you email via PGP with “super secure” PGP keys (and honestly I’d trust Proton more than I’d trust most people to roll their own PGP… it’s hard stuff to get PGP right).
How good is spam detection on ProtonMail? Especially compared to some of the big players like GMail?
Edit: I moved my primary email address to ProtonMail. Spam-Filtering is simply not good. About 50% get through just fine, even if it’s very easily identifiable as Spam / Phishing. I love everything else about ProtonMail but Spam-Filtering is simply not good despite relatively positive reviews I found about it.
Pretty damn good. I switched from Gmail, which afaik is amongst the best.
I hosted email professionally and for myself both, from the old days writing send mail rules in vi to turnkey shit. Absolute not worth the substantial hassle. Doesn’t scale small. The auth and security stuff is a PITA, then you find one thing was wrong and other domains were silently dropping all your mail, never delivered. Ugh. Protonmail it is.
I’ve been very happy with mxroute for quite a few years now. They have a summer deal going on for $40 a year for unlimited domains and accounts, you’re only limited by storage (100GB) and outgoing emails per hour.
t would be helpful to know what you consider basic features you want the host to support, but catchall works.+1 for mxroute. Happy customer since last black Friday. No fuss and just works (after reading the how-to). Also spam detection is good.
How good is mxroute at blocking spam correctly?
Same here, very happy about mxroute, they even have a plan where you pay once for lifetime account.
I self-host my main email account, but use MXRoute as an outbound relay. Works great.
I do have some email accounts that use MXRoute. The Crossbox webmail system they use is very good.
I use Porkbun with Gmail and ForwardEmail.net. They do a great job.
I have a couple domains that are very low volume for outgoing mail. I use Migadu. I’m happy with their cheapest tier ($19/year for both domains). They have catch-alls and many other nice features.
Edit: They have no hard limits on the number of addresses, users, or domains and such. They just want you to be reasonable. You choose a tier based on your average quantity of outgoing mails per day. Again, there are no hard limits; they won’t cut you off unless you abuse the system.
I’ve been happy as well with migadu for the time I’ve been using it ~3 years. Have different mailboxes, and I used aliases for pretty much every website I sign up with.
Check out PurelyMail. It’s $10 a year, unlimited custom domains, unlimited emails, privacy focused.
As a single user or small household setup - I’m using Cloudflare email routing, with catchall, forwarded into my Gmail account for receive. For SMTP, I’m using a combination of mailjet.com and brevo.com, which both have fairly robust free tiers for personal/small business use and allow sending from anything@domain.com.
Funny 😄 pretty much asked myself the same thing, the day before yesterday.
Specifically, I have been looking for encrypted mail hosters supporting your own domain. Also, hosting in Europe on dedicated Hardware (or at least guaranteed European VPS), GDPR compliance and some sort of certification/ verification of the said requirements and their claims!
What I came up with:
- mailbox.org (never heard of it before, but pretty much has your requirements covered) <- Tor nodes, anonymous accounts(no personal data at all!)
- proton mail
- Tutanota (pretty young - but interesting concept)
I won’t cite their individual plans - that’s for you to figure out in detail.
The thing that bugs me with the Proton Mail and Tutanota, to effectively make use of their threat model/ encryption you have to use their Apps/ Software. EDIT: I’m currently using Microsoft365 - with it you are pretty much locked in - I fear with Proton or Tutanota it’s the same. Migrating is a pain.
I’m trying mailbox.org at the moment - they got a 30-free trail.
ProtonMail for regular email + smtp2go for services to send outbound email.
You can use protonmail’s smtp gateway(tokenized) also if you have one of the larger plans
Well shit, didn’t know that was a thing.
So far my usage is enough to keep me on the free smtp2go plan. But that’s worth keeping in mind if my needs grow.
I’ve enjoyed runbox.com for years but don’t think they offer catch-all, at least not when I last checked. You might look at mxroute.com, I heard about it later and might have gone with them first and they somehow seem more likely to support that
I’ve used runbox for I don’t know how many years now. They do support a catch-all, as I make up email addresses on the fly with my domain and it works just fine.
